Seminar XXII: R. S. I. : 1974-1975: from 19th November 1974 : Jacques Lacan

by Julia Evans on November 19, 1974


1) Introduction to the publication of the RSI Seminar : March 1975 : Jacques Lacan

2) Translated by Jacqueline Rose – 21st January 1975 only and Introduction by Jacqueline Rose

3) Translated by Cormac Gallagher (incomplete)

4) Translated by Jack W. Stone

5) Translated by Anthony Chadwick (incomplete)

6) Seminar XXII published in French

7) Index & References 

8) Citations & quotes

Introduction to French publication

Introduction to this Publication : March 1975 : Jacques Lacan

as translated by Jack W. Stone

A wager which is that of my teaching, why not hold it to the extreme, since somewhere note has been taken of it, and not print it as it is?

The hesitation is not necessarily mine. My relation to [rapport au] the composite public who listens to me amply motivates it.

That I testify of an experience I have specified as being analytic and mine, is there supposed for veracious.

Seeing where this experience leads me by its statement (énoncé), has the value of a supervision [contrôle] (I know the words I employ).

The “categories” of the symbolic, of the imaginary and of the real are here put to the proof of a testament. If they imply three effects by their knot, if this is discovered by me not to be able to sustain itself except by the borromean relation, these are the effect of sense, the effect of jouissance, and the effect . . . I have said of non-rapport to specify it from what seems most to suggest the idea of a rapport, to wit, the sexual.

It is clear that these effects are implications of my categories themselves: which may be futile even if they indeed seem to be inherent to “thought.”

I explain in the measure of my means what the knot, and a knot of a sort that mathematics is still little devoted to, can add of consistency to these effects. One will remark, however, to leave said consistency on the level of (au ras de) the imaginary takes here the value of distinguishing it in a triad which keeps its sense, even in demonstrating that the real is excluded from it.

This is the type of problem I find again at every turn (without looking for it, it should be said).

But the measure itself of the effects that I say can only modulate my dire. To add there the fatigue of this dire itself does not lighten for us the duty of accounting for it: on the contrary.

A marginal note, like page 8, may be necessitated to complete a circuit elided in the seminar. It is not the touching-up which is here “futile,” but, as I stress, the mental itself, to the extent that it exists.

Jacques Lacan

Introduction to the publication of the RSI seminar : March 1975 : published at École Lacanienne de Psychanalyse – Pas tout Lacan here : Available as ‘1975-03-00 Introduction à la publication de RSI (1p)’ : Available here

Translations of Seminar XXII

1) Translated by Jacqueline Rose

Published in ‘Jacques Lacan & the École Freudienne:  Feminine Sexuality’

Edited by Juliet Mitchell and Jacqueline Rose

Macmillan: 1982

Chapter Seven:  Session of 21 January 1975 p162 -171. Available to download from  /lacan

Editor’s Preface, Bibliography, etc, available Commentaries & Information from ‘Jacques Lacan & the École Freudienne: Feminine Sexuality’ : 1982 : Juliet Mitchell and Jacqueline Rose or here

Commentaries :

Introduction – I to ‘Jacques Lacan & the École Freudienne: Feminine Sexuality’: 1982 : Juliet Mitchell or here

Introduction – II to ‘Jacques Lacan & the École Freudienne: Feminine Sexuality’: 1982: Jacqueline Rose or here

Quote from the Introduction to Chapter Seven, p162 of ‘Feminine Sexuality’ (published in 1982) : Jacqueline Rose : 1982

Lacan’s seminar of 21 January 1975 was published in the third issue of ‘Ornicar?’ the periodical of the department of psychoanalysis at the University of Paris VIII.  The department was reorganised in 1974-5 under the direction of Lacan and the supervision of Jacques-Alain Miller, who has become increasingly responsible for its administration.  It defined its programme as a continuing reassessment of Freud’s discovery through the work of Lacan, and the development of closer ties between psychoanalysis and other disciplines (linguistics, logic, typology).  ‘Ornicar?’ was set up to publish information on the department’s teaching programme and research projects.  It appears five times a year.  In Lacan’s lifetime, each issue included a draft of Lacan’s current seminar.

The seminar that follows, therefore, reflects Lacan’s preoccupation with logic and topology, as well as his attempt to construct a possible ‘matheme’ of psychoanalysis which had come to predominate in his later work.  This was defined in the first issue of ‘Ornicar?’ as the formulation of analytic experience as a structure, against the idea that such experience is ineffable.  It appears in this seminar more as an examination of notions such as ‘form’ and ‘consistency’, which imply a presence or unity of the subject, and which Lacan opposes with concepts and figures from logic, topology and the formulae of written language, which cannot be cohered in the same way.

In this context, the idea of woman as an object of fantasy is taken further.  Lacan argues that woman’s position in the sexual relation is that of a ‘symptom’ for the man, which serves to ward off the unconscious, and to ensure the consistency of his relation to the phallic term.  Once again Lacan underlines the precarious nature of any such consistency.

This final article (in the book: Female Sexuality) is in many ways elliptical.  But it demonstrates the close link between the question of feminine sexuality and that investigation of the foundations of logic and language, which was the constant emphasis of Lacan’s work.

The ‘Seminar of 21 January 1975’ was published in ‘Ornicar?’ (Lacan, 1975- ), 3(1975), p104-110

2) Translated by Jack W. Stone

Published by the University of Missouri, here

Available to download here or R.S.I. (zip file).

This is a translation of the French publication, edited by Jacques-Alain Miller.

Available at  /lacan

Index : 19th November 1974, 10th December 1974 with Introduction to book, 17th December 1974, 14th January 1975, 21st January 1975, 11th February 1975, 18th February 1975, 11th March 1975, 18th March 1975, 8th April 1975, 15th April 1975, 13th May 1975

3)  Translated by Cormac Gallagher

Available at at Seminar XXII

The Seminar of Jacques Lacan:  Seminar XXII,  R. S. I.,  1974 – 1975

Index : Introduction Preliminary to the Seminar of R.S.I. 19 November 1974, Seminar 1: Tuesday 10 December 1974, Seminar II : 17th December 1974 (page II 1 is missing), Seminar III : 14th January 1975, Seminar IV : 21st January 1975, Seminar V : 11th February 1975 (pages V 1-9 are missing), Seminar VI : 18th February 1975 (pVI 1-3 are missing), Seminar VII : 11th March 1975 (pVII 1 is missing), Seminar VIII : 18th March 1975  (pVIII 1-9 are missing), Seminar IX : 8th April 1975 (pIX 1 is missing), Seminar X : 15th April 1975, Seminar XI : 13th May 1975 (pXI 1 is missing)

4) Translated by Anthony Chadwick (December 2018)

Published at Richard G. Klein’s site,, and available as follows:

19th November 1974  here, 17th December 1974  here,  13th January 1975  here,  21st January 1975  here,  11th February 1975  here,  18th February 1975  here, 18th March 1975  here, 15th April 1975  here  

5)  In French:  Text established by Jacques-Alain Miller and published:

Ornicar? 2 (1975)  p87-105, Ornicar? 3 (1975) p95-110, Ornicar? 4 (1975) p91-106, Ornicar? 5 (1975) p15-66

Introduction to the publication of the RSI seminar : March 1975 :

 : published at École Lacanienne de Psychanalyse – Pas tout Lacan here : Available as ‘1975-03-00 Introduction à la publication de RSI (1p)’ : Available here

6) Index & references


How to recompose the Name-of-the Father : 2004 : Éric Laurent or here

 The Theory of the Knot Outlined by Jacques Lacan : July 1996 : Jean Michel Vappereau or here

The Ordinary Topology of Jacques Lacan: 1986: Jeanne Lafont or here

Introduction:    Preliminary to the Seminar of R.S.I.: 19 November 1974

Seminar 1:       Tuesday 10 December 1974

Seminar 2:       Tuesday 17th December 1974

 The Theory of the Knot Outlined by Jacques Lacan : July 1996 : Jean Michel Vappereau or here

The Ordinary Topology of Jacques Lacan: 1986: Jeanne Lafont or here

Seminar 3:       Tuesday 14th January

Knot and Name-of-the-Father: July 2006: Pierre Skriabine or here 

The Ordinary Topology of Jacques Lacan: 1986: Jeanne Lafont or here

Seminar 4:       Tuesday 21st January 1975

Seminar 5:       Tuesday 11th February 1975

Seminar 6:       Tuesday 18th February 1975

Seminar 7:       Tuesday 11th March 1975

Seminar 8:       Tuesday 18th March 1975

Seminar 9:       Tuesday 8th April 1975

Seminar 10:     Tuesday 15th April 1975

Seminar 11:     Tuesday 13th May 1975

7) Citations:

Seminar XXII : Session date is unknown

Quoted from:  The Borromean Knot before the Sinthome [En-Fr]  By Ruzanna Hakobyan : Posted on April 30, 2013 at : [nls-messager] 739.en/ NLS Congress 2013: The Blog (XII)

Starting from the Seminar XXII R.S.I, Lacan will give up his idea of the borromean knot as serving uniquely for the psychotic structure. In this seminar the borromean knot changes status. It is no longer about the representation of the chain of signifiers, it is no more a model of structure, but Lacan locates it on the side of the Real.

In this seminar he goes on to introduce the fourth knot, which he will call “psychical reality”, “Oedipus complex” and finally “Name-of the Father”: the fourth element without which, according to Lacan, “nothing is possible in the knot of the symbolic, the imaginary and the Real.”[6]  LACAN J., Le séminaire livre XXIII Le Sinthome, Paris, Seuil, 2005 p. 167.  



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