Seminar XXI: 1973-1974: Les non-dupes errent : begins 13th November 1973 : Jacques Lacan

by Julia Evans on November 13, 1973

(Les Noms du Père)

In English (Cormac Gallagher’s translation is not published in date order):

Les Non Dupes Errent Part 1

– Seminar XXI : Session of 13th November 1973 : Seminar I

What kind of Viator? : 3rd May 2016 : Rik Loose or here


p14 btm of Cormac Gallagher’s translation : The Interpretation of Dreams: 1st November 1899 (published as 1900): Sigmund Freud : Information here : p621 of James Strachey’s translation : SE Vol V: The full quote available here

– Seminar XXI : 20th November 1973 : Seminar II

Reason for ‘Interrogating Freud & Lacan’ & how you may join in or here

– Seminar XXI : 11th December 1973 : Seminar III

– Quote found by  Greg Hynds

p11-12 of Cormac Gallagher’s translation : I say – I deafen you with it – the truth can only be half said. That means confirming that there is no truth unless it is mathematicised. namely, written,  namely, it can only be suspended, as truth, from axioms. Namely, that there is no truth except about what has no meaning. Namely, of that from which there are no other consequences to be drawn than in its register, the register of mathematical deduction, in this case – and how after that can psychoanalysis imagine that it proceeds from the truth?

– Quoted from:  The Borromean Knot before the Sinthome [En-Fr]  By Ruzanna Hakobyan : Unfortunately the full text is no longer available.

Posted on April 30, 2013 at [nls-messager] 739.en/ NLS Congress 2013: The Blog (XII) :  towards the New Lacanian School’s XIth Congress in Athens  on 18th and 19th May 2013.

In Seminar XXI Les non-dupes errent, Lacan introduced the idea that to each round of the knot there corresponds a register: the Imaginary, the Symbolic and the Real. On the other hand, he still maintains a very clear differentiation: for the psychotic structure, he reserves the borromean knot: “when there is one of these rounds of string which you lack, you must become mad.”[4]For the neurotic structure, he offers the model of an Olympic chain in explaining why if one of the rounds breaks, the two others hold together: “… It is that which means that you are neurotic… Whether it be the Real, the Imaginary or the Symbolic which lacks to them, they hold up… It is precisely in this that the difference from the borromean knot consists.”[5]  LACAN J., Le séminaire livre XXI Les non-dupes errent, Unpublished. Lesson of 11 December 1973.

Footnote 4 : P17 of Cormac Gallagher’s translation : “when one of these rings is missing, you should go mad.  And this is why, this is why the best case consists, namely, that if there is something normal, it is because, when one of the dimensions fails you for some reason or other, you should really go mad. [continued in Footnote 5]”

Footnote 5 :  P17 of Cormac Gallagher’s translation :  “And it is on this that I would like to finish, to show you its importance. Imagine the case of another knot, the knot that I called earlier Olympic, if one of your rings of string… fails you, fails you I might say, because of something that does not concern you, you do not for all that go mad. This because, whether you know it or not, the two other knots hold together, and that is what means that you are neurotic. This is why, always, I affirmed something that is not sufficiently known: neurotics are indefatigable.”

– Seminar XXI : 18th December 1973 : Seminar IV

– Seminar XXI: 11th June 1974 : Seminar XV

Translated by Cormac Gallagher


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Les Non Dupes Errent Part 2 : begins 21st May 1974

– Seminar XXI : Session of 21st May 1974 : Seminar XIV

– Seminar XXI : 8th January 1974 : Seminar V

– Seminar XXI : 15th January 1974 : Seminar VI

– Seminar XXI : 12th February 1974 : Seminar VII

– Seminar XXI : 19th February 1974 : Seminar VIII

Quote from p9 of Cormac Gallagher’s translation in Quotes towards ‘Trauma : Les traumatismes dans la cure analytique’ : 9th April 2013 : Christiane Alberti & Marie-Hélène Brousse or here

The origin of trou-matism or trou-matic is as follows: p9 of Cormac Gallagher’s translation (Part 2 of his translation)  : …He fancies that he does not know! What a funny business… But we all know, because all of us invent something to fill up the hole in the Real. Where there is no sexual relationship this gives a ‘troumatisme’. One invents. Naturally one invents what one can.

Translated by Cormac Gallagher


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Les Non Dupes Errent Part 3: begins 12th March 1974

– Seminar XXI : Session of 12th March 1974

– Seminar XXI : 19th March 1974 : Seminar X

– Seminar XXI : 9th April 1974 : Seminar XI

– Seminar XXI : 23rd April 1974 : Seminar XII

– Seminar XXI : 14th May 1974 : Seminar XIII

Translated by Cormac Gallagher


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Les Non Dupes Errent Part 1

Seminar XXI: 11thJune 1974 :  Seminar XV

Translated by Cormac Gallagher


Available here


  Julia Evans

Practicing Lacanian Psychoanalyst, Earl’s Court, London


Further texts

Of the clinic : here

Some Lacanian history : here

Lacanian Transmission : here

Topology & the Lacanian Clinic : here

By Sigmund Freud : here

Notes on texts by Sigmund Freud : here

By Jacques Lacan : here

Notes on texts by Jacques Lacan : here