Comment on : LUTHER, CALVIN AND MERKEL WITH SADE by Bruno de Florence

by Julia Evans on September 17, 2015

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From: Bruno de Florence

Subject: 3 elaborations

Date: 20 August 2015 17:21:27 BST





On 17 Sep 2015, at 16:41, Julia Evans wrote:

[PS The following jottings are just that, jottings. I have not reworked them, though comments are welcome]


I am thinking this one through. ….  Some preliminary jottings:

I agree that there is an argument for Calvinist approaches to Christianity leading to strict codes of conduct being put in place and acts being classified as sinful. Much of Victorian Society was built on this principle and was commercially very successful. So the God who is put in place is an Old Testament, judging God who will only reward correctness or compliance.

As I have said to you, Bruno, it seems to me that the Greeks entered into a contract with other member states, giving false information. It is also the case that the EU member states accepted Greece, probably knowing that the figures were not accurate. So how do you build on a contract which is founded on deceit and which one side alleges subsequently fails or is unfair? How do you help a state which has used the money loaned to it, by the letter of the law or contract, and wherever it can has cheated for example with growing the size of its armed forces, as these were not mentioned in the contract’s restrictions?

Syriza, as with the popular Jeremy Corbyn, has promised much which it is not within its power to deliver. The Greek population celebrated and had a party. Then, nasty Angela Merkel comes along and spoils the party because she has a different view (possibly involving putting God or an Other in place) of how you spend other people’s money.

This is a possible interpretation.

It is also possible that joining so many different cultures together is an impossibility, culturally or financially. But given it does exist and Greece applied for membership voluntarily, what is the way to negotiate with a body or country which treats contracts lightly?

We are about to see these two views of economics played out in the UK Parliament – or if Parliament is working that is where the conflict should be visible. In a video on Jeremy Corbyn from the Financial Times – see below – you have to sit through some adverts – the fact that Labour now has a unified economic policy is seen as a good thing. Unfortunately, the economic policy is not seen as viable, but it does sound attractive…

Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour leadership win

  FT writers discuss the hard-left MP’s victory
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  (& it is possible this is behind a pay barrier though I never seem to get stopped!)